Questioning the Experts Part 2 Father Schweigl

During an audience in October 1951 regarding the consecration of Russia Sister Lucy asked Father Wetter, S.J. "Are you able to pass on to the Holy Father the message that what Our Lady of Fatima requested has not yet been done?" The Father said yes. (#1p.323)

On September 2, 1952 Father Schweigl with the permission of Pius XII interrogated Sister Lucy. It wasn't however until Vatican II in the early 1960's that Father Schweigl described in text form how he had received permission from Pius XII to speak to Sister Lucy about 31 questions concerning the conversion of Russia. (#1p.337)

When he returned to the Vatican after meeting with Sister Lucy, Father Schweigl said, "I cannot reveal anything of what I learned at Fatima concerning the Third Secret, but I can say that it has two parts: one concerns the Pope; the other logically (although I must say nothing) would have to be continuation of the words: "In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved etc " (#3p.167) Was his mission about the third secret or Russia? Fr Schweigl statement is very important because it has been used to help verify the assumption that the third secret is composed of two separate letters.

Father Schweigl visited with Sister Lucy and then mentions the third secret upon his return and he is considered an authority on Fatima. In fact according to Mark Fellows, author and Fatima expert he is one of the few persons to have ever read the Third Secret.(#2 p122) This statement has to be considered very doubtful for the the following reasons:

Father Schweigl did not read the third secret. When Fr Schweigl went to Portugal in 1952, the third secret had been sealed away by Bishop da Silva since 1944.

Sister Lucy did not tell Father Schweigl the third secret. In 1957 Sister Lucy told Father Fuentes, "I am not able to give any detail because it is still secret. According to the will of the Most Holy Virgin, only the Holy Father and the Bishop of Fatima are permitted to know the secret, but they have chosen to not know it so that they would not be influenced."

Sister Lucy did not trust the Vatican. She told Fr Fuentes in 1957 about the faithful being abandoned by their leaders. (#2p.145)

It is extremely possible that during the interrogation of Sister Lucy she did confirm to Father Schweigl that part of the Third Secret concerned the Pope and it was therefore assumed that the other part was about dogma and faith as written in 1941.

Homer Sweeney

References:

(1) Michel, Frere --The Whole Truth About Fatima --- The Third Secret
(2) Fellows, Mark -- Fatima in Twilight
(3) Kramer, Father Paul -- The Devil's Final Battle

Questioning the Experts Part 1 The Fourth Memoir

In late 1941 Sister Lucy wrote at the end of her Fourth Memoir, "In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved etc." Most Fatima experts assume that these were the first words of the third secret. (#1p.35)

It wasn't until September 1943 two years later that Sister Lucy was commanded by Bishop da Silva to write the third secret. She had no intention of revealing the secret on paper and we also know that it was very difficult for her to accomplish. In fact it wasn't until January 2, 1944 when the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to Lucy that she had the strength and courage to write the final part of the secret. She informed the Bishop on the 9th of January that her tasked had been completed. (#3p.27)

It is hard to visualize that Sister Lucy had the first part of the third secret written in 1941 but then had difficulty completing it in 1943-44. To say that "In Portugal . . . is the beginning sentence of the secret is very questionable.

Homer Sweeney

References:

(1) Michel Frere: The Whole Truth About Fatima --- The Third Secret
(2) Kramer, Father Paul: The Devil's Final Battle